Sec. Kerry Makes Case for Iran Deal, Responds
to Criticism from Former Vice President Dick Cheney
to Criticism from Former Vice President Dick Cheney
New York, NY - Today,
Secretary of State John Kerry appeared on Rev. Al Sharpton’s nationally
syndicated radio show, “Keeping it Real,” and
made a powerful case for support of the Iran nuclear deal (Joint
Comprehensive Plan of Action). Here is a key excerpt from the interview,
where Rev. Sharpton asks Sec. Kerry to respond to criticism of the deal
by former Vice President Dick Cheney:
Here is the transcript.
Rev. Al Sharpton: I believe we are being joined by the Secretary of State John Kerry, who has come on the line, Secretary Kerry?
Secretary of State John Kerry: Reverend Al, how are you? It’s good to hear your voice.
Rev. Al Sharpton: Good, good. Thank you, you called right on time, and we’ll be taking some calls, thank you for taking time -
Secretary of State John Kerry: Of course, I’m happy to talk to you, happy to catch up with you.
Rev. Al Sharpton: Happy to, we go back a little while…
Secretary of State John Kerry: Yes, sir, we do.
Rev. Al Sharpton:
Let me ask you to explain to our listeners around the country the
importance of this agreement, because we’ve been urging people to tell
their pastors, announce
at their churches and gatherings, to call members of Congress and the
Senate to tell them to vote yes with the President and you and the
administration on this agreement. Explain the significance, particularly
in areas where we have an inordinate or disproportionate
amount of people that are in the armed services.
Secretary of State John Kerry:
Well, absolutely, I’m delighted to do so. Look, I heard the last bit of
the Wills comment, about wasn’t sure this would help Iran get rid of a
nuclear
weapon. We are sure that this program, this agreement, actually rolls
back the Iranian program from where it is today and it puts additional
inspectors into Iran, and creates a system of accountability to know
what Iran is doing with respect to its so-called
peaceful nuclear program and it makes sure that it is peaceful. Because
there’ll be additional inspectors going into Iran, because they have a
right to 24/7 access to their facility, to be able to track what is
happening. We have a reduction in the Iranian
stockpile, that they’re allowed to keep 300 kilograms and the limit on
their enrichment for 15 years at 3.67 percent. It’s physically
impossible to make a bomb at that level of stockpile or at that level of
enrichment. And then for 25 years, Al, we have a
tracking of the uranium production from their mines, into their mills,
into their, you know, materials the yellow cake, the gas, the centrifuge
and then out in the waste. So we track it from cradle to grave. And the
result will be that we’ll have a level of
accountability that has not existed. The choice of voting no is to have
none of those things. No inspections, no limitations, no inspectors, no
requirements on the size of their stockpile, Iran will be free to go
enrich, do what it wants and that’s how you
begin to have a conflict, and I don’t want to see, the President
doesn’t want to see, more young Americans being sent over to fight
because we made the wrong decision about how we could diplomatically put
in place a program that could account for what they’re
doing.
Rev. Al Sharpton:
You know, Secretary Kerry, the political season, you’ve been in the
Senate, both of us ran for President in ’04, you became the nominee, I
campaigned for you, so
we know about campaign rhetoric. Some of the Republican candidates are
saying Iran has gotten all it wants here, one said that the Ayatollah
and others would be dancing in the streets if they believed in dancing.
Is there any measure of truth to that we gave
too much to Iran, in your judgment?
Secretary of State John Kerry:
Well, in Iran, they’re fighting, suggesting that their negotiators gave
up too much to us. They’re arguing that they shouldn’t have had to
destroy
so much of their stockpile or they shouldn’t have to dismantle their
centrifuges. I mean Iran has to do major steps to take the break out
time – there’s a thing called break out time, which is the amount of
time that Iran would need to have enough fissile
material for one bomb, not the bomb itself, but enough fissile material
for the bomb. That’s been around two months, during these last years.
Under our program, under our agreement, that’s going to stretch out to a
year for ten years or more, and we will have
an extraordinary set of limits on their ability to go break out at all,
thereafter, because we will have this level of inspection, intrusive
inspections that take place. So we didn’t give up any fundamental
principles whatsoever here. The President said that
we have to shut off their pathway to an enrichment track for a bomb, we
have. We have to shut off their plutonium track, we’ve done that, with a
reactor that’s going to be destroyed and we have to shut off the covert
approach, and we’ve done that through the
access agreement that we have that allows us to require inspection
wherever we have suspicion of a nuclear facility and if they don’t let
us in, then we have every option available to us that we have today. We
haven’t lost a thing.
Rev. Al Sharpton:
How did you react to those that have said, mainly former VP Cheney,
that this makes Iran the strongest power in the Middle East, and that
somewhere he has accused
the administration of making it their goal to strengthen Iran in the
region?
Secretary of State John Kerry:
Well, that’s very ironic, coming from a guy who invaded Iraq and
basically took the Sunni leadership of Iraq, threw them out and gave
Iraq to the Shia
majority, which has huge, close ties to Iran. So if you want to talk
about strengthening Iran, go back and look at what happened in the Iraq
war, and the decision Cheney made, and particularly, how wrong he was
about what he said about them possessing weapons
of mass destruction. So I don’t really listen very carefully to that
particular judgment, if you want to know the truth, the fact is that
Iran will have to live up to these agreements and we have an inspection
mechanism put in place that is so intrusive and
complete that we will know what Iran is doing and if Iran decides they
want to break this, and I’m not telling you they might not, but if they
do, we will know it and we will have all the options available to us
that we have today. I think to say, vote no,
and willfully turn your backs on the international community that
supports what we’re doing, to take the five countries that negotiated
with us, Germany, France, Britain, China, Russia, and tell them, sorry
guys, we’re going to go do something else, and think
that you’re going to put sanctions in place or have their support in
the future if you need to take military action, just doesn’t make sense.
So, I think that it is very clear that we got an agreement, there are
29 or 30 major nuclear scientists and physicists
in America, nuclear experts who all congratulated the President for
this agreement. We have admirals and generals who are retired who agree
this is the best way to prevent them from getting a weapon. We have a
former national security advisor to President
Bush, Brent Scowcroft, who has supported this agreement, we have
republican Senator Dick Lugar, Republican Senator John Warner, who was
chairman of the Armed Services Committee, supports the agreement. I
think we got a good agreement, we wouldn’t earn the
support of all those people if it wasn’t a good agreement.
Rev. Al Sharpton:
Well, thank you for taking time to come on Secretary Kerry, and always
good to speak with you, we’re going to continue our drive because we
think it’s in the interest
of all of us, not only in the United States but around the world to try
and deal with the question of the potential of nuclear weapons in Iran.
Thank you so much, Secretary Kerry.
Secretary of State John Kerry: Thank you so much, Rev. Al.
Source: The National Action Network
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